Legislature(1993 - 1994)

02/17/1993 09:00 AM Senate FIN

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  SENATE BILL NO. 46                                                           
                                                                               
       Act authorizing moose farming.                                          
                                                                               
  Upon  reconvening  the meeting,  Co-chairman  Frank directed                 
  that SB 46 be brought on for discussion.                                     
                                                                               
  TERESA SAGER-STANCLIFF, aide  to Senator  Mike Miller,  came                 
  before committee.   She explained  that the bill  would give                 
  the Dept. of Fish  and Game authority to dispose  of surplus                 
  moose by  transferring them to private  ownership--either to                 
  individuals  or   groups  for  commercial,   scientific,  or                 
  educational purposes.   The legislation would  also legalize                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  the sale of moose meat.                                                      
                                                                               
  DAVE    KELLYHOUSE,    Director,   Division    of   Wildlife                 
  Conservation,  Dept.  of  Fish and  Game,  next  came before                 
  committee, voicing department  opposition to  the bill.   He                 
  explained that, based  upon experience in  all jurisdictions                 
  previously providing for moose farming, the legislation will                 
  not likely result in  significant contributions to  Alaska's                 
  economy.  Further, it is likely to require significant state                 
  subsidies for  moose farming  ventures without  prospects of                 
  compensating  revenues.   Moose  farming  is also  likely to                 
  adversely impact Alaska's  wild game populations as  well as                 
  businesses presently benefitting from state wildlife.                        
                                                                               
  After over fifty years of  experience, moose have not proven                 
  to be  a viable  game farm  species for  either meat,  draft                 
  animal  purposes,  or  milk  production.    Of  two  farming                 
  operations  in the former  Soviet Union, one  has closed and                 
  the other has been converted to a wildlife research station.                 
  Those operations found that moose were subject to behavioral                 
  stress  and  related illnesses  in high  density situations.                 
  They were unsuitable for draft  purposes because they cannot                 
  rid themselves of body  heat.  Milk production was  low, and                 
  feeding proved  to be  exceedingly expensive.   The  type of                 
  fencing  required to  contain  a moose  costs  approximately                 
  $13,000 per mile.  It would thus cost  approximately $52,000                 
  to fence a square  mile of moose habitat.   Without adequate                 
  natural browse, moose must be provided supplemental hand-cut                 
  browse  or  a special  ration that  costs  twice as  much as                 
  domestic animal feed.                                                        
                                                                               
  Moose do not  do well in high  stocking rates.   Contrary to                 
  other  testimony,  they are  not  herd  animals.   They  are                 
  solitary  most  of the  time and  group only  during certain                 
  times of  the year.   Large acreages of  land are  needed to                 
  accommodate them.                                                            
                                                                               
  As  with other  agricultural endeavors,  an expensive  state                 
  subsidy is likely to be  necessary for single-use dedication                 
  of land, fencing, etc.                                                       
                                                                               
  The department believes  that, in terms of  land use, active                 
  management of wild  moose populations has proven  capable of                 
  producing equal or more productivity per dollar than private                 
  ownership.                                                                   
                                                                               
  Mr. Kellyhouse  questioned  assertions  that  moose  farming                 
  would   provide   viewing   opportunities    for   tourists.                 
  Department   experience   since  statehood   indicates  that                 
  roadside  zoos  result  "in a  high  number  of complaints."                 
  While  the department would  likely have little jurisdiction                 
  over private ownership, it would  nonetheless be expected to                 
  do something when  complaints arise.  The  department's zero                 
  fiscal  note assumes  that the  only department  involvement                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  would be to "find  a surplus in coordination with  the board                 
  of  game  and then  inspect  facilities  to see  if  they're                 
  adequate."    In  reality,  the  department  would  probably                 
  experience  far  more  involvement.    As  an  example,  Mr.                 
  Kellyhouse noted  that the  department has  little authority                 
  over  the Delta  bison herd.   However,  when captive  bison                 
  escaped, the department devoted two man-months to "trying to                 
  get those animals back."  The effort was  unsuccessful since                 
  the  domesticated bison blended  with the wild  herd.  There                 
  would be more of a problem with moose.                                       
                                                                               
  A  further concern relates  to the "very  real potential for                 
  disease transmission and  introduction to  the wild."   Most                 
  game  farms  tend  to  have  a  variety of  stock  in  close                 
  proximity.    Moose  are  extremely  difficult  to  contain.                 
  During rut males  from outside the  enclosure are likely  to                 
  attempt to gain  access.  The  reverse is true for  confined                 
  males.   Escapes  are highly  likely  as is  transmission of                 
  disease.                                                                     
                                                                               
  ALICIA  D.  PORTER, Alaska  Environmental  Lobby,  next came                 
  before committee, voicing lobby opposition to the bill.  She                 
  said the legislation is considered biologically and fiscally                 
  detrimental to the state.  History has shown that game farms                 
  are labor intensive and economically draining.  Hidden costs                 
  relate to:                                                                   
                                                                               
       1.   Identifiable costs to the Dept. of Environmental                   
            Conservation, including:                                           
                                                                               
            A.   Examination of animals for disease                            
            B.   Inspection of meat for human consumption                      
            C.   Preparation of regulations                                    
                                                                               
       2.   Vulnerability of the Dept. of Public Safety to                     
            increased   enforcement   costs   resulting   from                 
  legalization                                                                 
            of  the sale  of  moose meat.    Poaching of  wild                 
            animals  frequently  becomes  a problem  in  areas                 
            where the  sale of game meat is  legalized.  After                 
            the  Province of  Alberta,  Canada, legalized  elk                 
            farming  and  the sale  of  elk  meat, enforcement                 
            costs skyrocketed due to increased poaching.                       
                                                                               
       3.   Dept. of Natural Resources need to permit land as                  
            agricultural.                                                      
                                                                               
       4.   Dept. of Fish and Game need for:                                   
                                                                               
            A.  Issuance of moose farm permits                                 
            B.  Inspection of fencing and other facilities                     
            C.  Surplus determinations                                         
            D.  Response to complaints from constituents and                   
                tourists when facilities appear to be                          
                                                                               
                                                                               
                substandard                                                    
            E.  Predator control                                               
                                                                               
  Ms. Porter noted  that many agricultural projects  in Alaska                 
  have failed to meet economic expectations and have turned to                 
  the state for subsidized, low-interest  loans.  The proposed                 
  bill  is  accompanied by  a zero  fiscal  note.   The Alaska                 
  Environmental  Lobby believes  that fiscal  notes  should be                 
  requested from DEC,  DNR, DPS and  DF&G.  Ms. Porter  voiced                 
  her  belief that  SB 46  would be  a costly venture  for the                 
  state to fund.                                                               
                                                                               
  OPAL  WELTON next  came before committee  in support  of the                 
  legislation.  She  presented written testimony on  behalf of                 
  herself and her husband, Doug.  (A copy of that testimony is                 
  appended  to  these  minutes and  is  also  on  file in  the                 
  original Senate Finance bill file for SB 46.)                                
                                                                               
  DOUG WELTON  next came  before committee  in support of  the                 
  bill.   He explained that  he and his  wife, Opal, have been                 
  working on moose  farming legislation  for over five  years.                 
  He took exception to  Dept. of Fish and Game  opposition and                 
  said that moose farming represents a conservation effort.                    
                                                                               
  Referring to Article VIII of the Natural Resource section of                 
  the state Constitution, Mr. Welton read the following:                       
                                                                               
       It is  the policy  of the  state to encourage  the                      
       settlement of its lands and the development of its                      
       resources by making them available for maximum use                      
       consistent with the public interest.                                    
                                                                               
  The response to  attempts to  educate the public  concerning                 
  moose  farming  has   been  overwhelming  support   for  the                 
  proposal.                                                                    
                                                                               
  Mr. Welton further noted constitutional language calling for                 
  legislative  provision  for  utilization,  development,  and                 
  conservation of  all natural resources,  including land  and                 
  waters.   The key  word is  "conservation."   He voiced  his                 
  belief  that  moose   farming  would  provide  a   means  of                 
  counteracting the hunting and killing of moose.                              
                                                                               
  Further constitutional  provisions relate to  reservation of                 
  fish, wildlife and waters in the natural state to the people                 
  of Alaska  for common use.   Residents of  the state  are to                 
  benefit from Alaskan  wildlife, not merely employees  of the                 
  Dept.  of Fish  and Game and  those who come  to Alaska from                 
  other countries and states to hunt and fish.                                 
                                                                               
  Mr.  Welton  noted  that  orphaned  animals are  often  sent                 
  outside  the  state to  zoos elsewhere.   He  suggested that                 
  Alaskans should have a prior claim  on this wildlife, and he                 
  took exception to references to  proposed moose farm efforts                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  as "roadside  zoos."    He  made reference  to the  reindeer                 
  facility  at  the  University  of Alaska  and  musk  ox  and                 
  reindeer facility at Palmer and noted that  neither could be                 
  so classified.                                                               
                                                                               
  Mr.  Welton  again pointed  to  constitutional language  and                 
  advised  of  the requirement  that  fish,  forest, wildlife,                 
  grasslands, and all replenishable resources belonging to the                 
  state   be  utilized,  developed,   and  maintained  on  the                 
  sustained  yield  principle,  subject  to preferences  among                 
  beneficial uses.  There are  beneficial uses for moose aside                 
  from hunting.  It could provide a healthier, leaner red meat                 
  than the beef on the market today.                                           
                                                                               
  Constitutional language further  states that the legislature                 
  may  provide for facilities,  improvements, and  services to                 
  assure  greater  utilization, development,  reclamation, and                 
  settlement  of  lands  and to  assure  full  utilization and                 
  development of fisheries, wildlife, and  waters.  Mr. Welton                 
  again stressed that  full utilization should allow  for more                 
  than  merely  hunting.    Moose farming  would  not  have to                 
  escalate  into  large  commercial operations.    Small rural                 
  farms would provide  families with  fresh milk and  breeding                 
  stock  for  an ongoing  meat  supply.   The  legislature  is                 
  obligated to provide Alaskans with these opportunities.                      
                                                                               
  JOHN CRAMER,  Director, Division  of  Agriculture, Dept.  of                 
  Natural  Resources,  came  before  committee.     He  voiced                 
  department  support  for  the  legislation,  but  noted  his                 
  personal belief that a large-scale commercial  operation for                 
  meat production would probably not be economically feasible.                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  Noting Dept. of Fish and Game opposition, Mr. Cramer said he                 
  was unaware of the basis for concerns regarding  a potential                 
  "significant state subsidy."                                                 
                                                                               
  Speaking  to the  likelihood  of  disease transmission,  Mr.                 
  Cramer  suggested that it  should be addressed  by the state                 
  veterinary rather than the Dept. of Fish and  Game.  He then                 
  suggested that the committee consult  with the veterinary in                 
  the course of further discussion of the bill.                                
                                                                               
  Mr. Cramer further advised that  lands already identified as                 
  agricultural  lands   could  be  utilized  for   moose  farm                 
  operations.   Farming efforts would  not necessarily  remove                 
  lands  from other  uses  and set  them  aside as  additional                 
  agricultural lands.                                                          
                                                                               
  Addressing comments by the  Alaska Environmental Lobby  that                 
  agriculture has failed, economically, in Alaska,  Mr. Cramer                 
  said, "There are successes in  every segment of agricultural                 
  industry in the  state of  Alaska, including game  farming."                 
  The Dept. of  Natural Resources and  Dept. of Fish and  Game                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  could work together  on fencing requirements.   Current game                 
  farms are working.   There have been no releases  aside from                 
  the  Delta bison incident.   Regulations can  be written and                 
  enforced in such  a way that  a significant hazard for  wild                 
  populations would not be posed.                                              
                                                                               
  Co-chairman  Frank  voiced  his  understanding that  Senator                 
  Miller  is  working  with   the  administration  to   change                 
  definitions within the bill.  He then directed that the bill                 
  be HELD in committee pending those changes.                                  
                                                                               
  ADJOURNMENT                                                                  
                                                                               
  The meeting was adjourned at approximately 11:00 a.m.                        
                                                                               

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